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How a Common Lisp Programmer Views Users of Other Languages

Posted: Thu Jan 21, 2010 7:23 am
by xytroxon
You may have seen this humorous Common Lisp programmer view of users of other programming languages photo collage from the link to the Kvardek Du blog on reddit, if not then: Click Here!

What would a newLISPer look like?

-- xytroxon

Re: How a Common Lisp Programmer Views Users of Other Languages

Posted: Thu Jan 21, 2010 6:48 pm
by cormullion
I love the way you find all this weird stuff! Why would a Common LIsp user see themselves as an old-fashioned character from the last century... ? It's all a bit baffling.

As for newLISP - how about this.

Re: How a Common Lisp Programmer Views Users of Other Languages

Posted: Fri Jan 22, 2010 5:43 pm
by xytroxon
Sonny, how old are you again? Why, back in my day and age... ;p)

The AI LISPers of the 80s (or any sci/tech college student in the 70s and 80s), identified with the futurism of Star Trek... And Captain James T. Kirk was their iconic hero... So much so, that a write-in campaign by American viewers resulted in the revival of the Star Trek universe... (After the Star Wars uber-commercialism proved a market existed for Sci-Fi...)

I remember in the mid 70s, my college had a "TV room" at the student center... Every day at 4 PM, when Star Trek was re-run by the local television station, the TV room was packed full of us "nerds" in total silence and rapt attention...

"Some men see things as they are and ask 'Why?' I dream things that never were and ask, 'Why not?'" Robert F. Kennedy

And as the result of those bold inspirations, you can now talk on your "communicator" and read your "tri-corder" while you queue in line for the stunning visual, but vapid storyline, of the "Avatar" movie...

Okay, so the future many not be perfect, yet...

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cormullion wrote:As for newLISP - how about this.
What??? No solar powered, super bright white LED flashlight in the handle? (Or did I miss it? ;)

-- xytroxon

Re: How a Common Lisp Programmer Views Users of Other Languages

Posted: Fri Jan 22, 2010 11:23 pm
by Kazimir Majorinc
This is how I imagine average Newlisp user:
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Another one passionate Newlisper:
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Re: How a Common Lisp Programmer Views Users of Other Languages

Posted: Sun Jan 24, 2010 12:19 am
by itistoday
Kazimir Majorinc wrote:This is how I imagine average Newlisp user:
You know I have to say I don't look anything like that... at all. ;-p

Re: How a Common Lisp Programmer Views Users of Other Languages

Posted: Sun Jan 24, 2010 6:59 am
by Kazimir Majorinc
Group of Newlispers ready for debugging session.

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Re: How a Common Lisp Programmer Views Users of Other Languages

Posted: Sun Jan 24, 2010 5:38 pm
by cormullion
You'll have to explain your reasoning Kazimir! :) Like the steam punk look, but not sure what the thoughts are here...

(My swiss army knife was about how newLISP has all the tools you need in one package...)

Re: How a Common Lisp Programmer Views Users of Other Languages

Posted: Mon Jan 25, 2010 12:22 am
by Kazimir Majorinc
Lisp has that retro future allure. It is designed in 1950's M.I.T. with ambitions that seemed more reachable then than they are today. Newlisp is, furthermore, step back from most popular dialects to original Lisp. Perhaps proper retro-futuristic style should be 1950'ish - but difference between 1950's futurism and modern futurism is much smaller.

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http://www.paleofuture.com/

Re: How a Common Lisp Programmer Views Users of Other Languages

Posted: Mon Jan 25, 2010 1:21 am
by m i c h a e l
cormullion wrote:My swiss army knife was about how newLISP has all the tools you need in one package...
While I agree with your conclusion, cormullion, the original contained photos of people (or people-like objects, at least), and in your analogy, us poor newLISPers become literal tools :-)

Remember, however, that this was how a Common Lisper views us, so it's probably something more like this:

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;-)

m i c h a e l

Re: How a Common Lisp Programmer Views Users of Other Languages

Posted: Mon Jan 25, 2010 10:01 am
by xytroxon
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Star Trek II: "The Wrath of newLISP"

Re: How a Common Lisp Programmer Views Users of Other Languages

Posted: Mon Jan 25, 2010 4:31 pm
by itistoday
xytroxon wrote:Image

Star Trek II: "The Wrath of newLISP"
I think this fits best with the theme of the original chart because this way newLISP is in the same "universe" as the other LISPs.

Re: How a Common Lisp Programmer Views Users of Other Languages

Posted: Mon Jan 25, 2010 5:21 pm
by cormullion
Thanks Kazimir. The connection is obvious, now that you point it out to me

I now realise that I don't have the necessary background knowledge or geek credentials to take part in threads like this... :-]

Re: How a Common Lisp Programmer Views Users of Other Languages

Posted: Mon Jan 25, 2010 9:12 pm
by xytroxon
cormullion wrote:Thanks Kazimir. The connection is obvious, now that you point it out to me

I now realise that I don't have the necessary background knowledge or geek credentials to take part in threads like this... :-]
http://memory-alpha.org/en/wiki/Star_Tr ... th_of_Khan

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"You see, the newLISP FOOP ell young enter through the ears and wrap themselves around the LISPer's cerebral cortex. This has the effect of rendering the victim extremely susceptible to the suggestion of object oriented programming paradigms. Later, as they grow, follows madness... and death..."

- Khan, about the newLISP FOOP Ceti eels

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Re: How a Common Lisp Programmer Views Users of Other Languages

Posted: Mon Jan 25, 2010 11:51 pm
by Lutz
Meanwhile at an undisclosed location embedded newlisp-10.1.10 is tested on Homunculus v.0.9:

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