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Re: newLISP in a browser

Posted: Sun Jun 25, 2017 8:02 am
by HPW
Hello,

Another test on an aged WIN 1o Laptop

Core 2 duo P8400 2.26 Ghz 4GB
Windows 10 Pro 1703 32bit

Edga 40 JS

>>>>> total time: 3759
>>>>> Performance ratio: 6.32 (1.0 on MacOSX 10.9, 2.3GHz Intel Core i5, newLISP v10.6.0-64-bit)

Edge 40 WA with enabled experimental javascript

ERR: regular expression in function find-all : "error -4 when executing"
called from user function QA:(qa)
called from user function (module "qa-bench")

So we see that WebAssembly is not yet everywhere. Best performance boost on chrome.

Regards

Re: newLISP in a browser

Posted: Mon Jun 26, 2017 4:58 am
by HPW
Hello,

Another note for WIN XP:

Neither Chrome 49 or Firefox ESR 52.2.0 work with WebAssembly.
But the JS-flavour works.

Regards

Re: newLISP in a browser

Posted: Mon Jun 26, 2017 5:32 am
by HPW
Hello,

CAD-Workstation:
Dell Precision T3610
CPU E5-1620 v2 3.7 GHZ 16GB
Windows performance index 7.7
WIndows 7 PRO SP1

http://www.ferrydb.nl/newlisp/
http://www.ferrydb.nl/newlisp-wa/

(module "qa-bench")


Chrome 59 JS

>>>>> total time: 1832
>>>>> Performance ratio: 3.18 (1.0 on MacOSX 10.9, 2.3GHz Intel Core i5, newLISP v10.6.0-64-bit)

Chrome 59 WA

>>>>> total time: 796
>>>>> Performance ratio: 1.50 (1.0 on MacOSX 10.9, 2.3GHz Intel Core i5, newLISP v10.6.0-64-bit)


Firefox 54 JS

>>>>> total time: 1032
>>>>> Performance ratio: 1.88 (1.0 on MacOSX 10.9, 2.3GHz Intel Core i5, newLISP v10.6.0-64-bit)

Firefox 54 WA

>>>>> total time: 990
>>>>> Performance ratio: 1.81 (1.0 on MacOSX 10.9, 2.3GHz Intel Core i5, newLISP v10.6.0-64-bit)

Regards

Re: newLISP in a browser

Posted: Mon Jun 26, 2017 10:09 pm
by fdb
Hi,

i've now als run some test on my iPad Pro, running beta of IOS 11 and also Safari 11 which should be able to run web assembly, results below:

With javascript:
>>>> total time: 3139
>>>>> Performance ratio: 5.31 (1.0 on MacOSX 10.9, 2.3GHz Intel Core i5, newLISP v10.6.0-64-bit)

With web-assembly:
>>>>> total time: 1633
>>>>> Performance ratio: 2.86 (1.0 on MacOSX 10.9, 2.3GHz Intel Core i5, newLISP v10.6.0-64-bit)

So almost twice as fast with web assembly.

Re: newLISP in a browser

Posted: Wed Jan 03, 2018 8:38 pm
by HPW
Hello,

Latest emscripten: Emscripten 1.37.27 (December 29, 2017)

Firefox Quantum 57.0.3 64 bit with new impressive Performance on my tablet
Asus Eee Slate
i5 U470 1.33 Ghz 4 Gb
Windows performance Index 3.1
Tested on Ferry's pages with 1.37.14

With javascript:
http://ferrydb.nl/newlisp/

>>>>> total time: 1891
>>>>> Performance ratio: 3.28 (1.0 on MacOSX 10.9, 2.3GHz Intel Core i5, newLISP v10.6.0-64-bit)

With web-assembly:
http://ferrydb.nl/newlisp-wa/

>>>>> total time: 1539
>>>>> Performance ratio: 2.71 (1.0 on MacOSX 10.9, 2.3GHz Intel Core i5, newLISP v10.6.0-64-bit)

Much faster than the last test with Firefox 54 on that Hardware.

Regards

Re: newLISP in a browser

Posted: Wed Jan 03, 2018 8:59 pm
by HPW
Hello,

Also news on Edge compatibility:

On the WIN 10 laptop with latest updates and Edge 41

(module "qa-bench")

With javascript:
http://ferrydb.nl/newlisp/

>>>>> total time: 3550
>>>>> Performance ratio: 5.98 (1.0 on MacOSX 10.9, 2.3GHz Intel Core i5, newLISP v10.6.0-64-bit)

With web-assembly:
http://ferrydb.nl/newlisp-wa/

>>>>> total time: 3968
>>>>> Performance ratio: 6.66 (1.0 on MacOSX 10.9, 2.3GHz Intel Core i5, newLISP v10.6.0-64-bit)

Note: the only browser where web-assembly is slower than javascript.
But it works now with wa. A little faster in javascript than the last test.

Regards

Re: newLISP in a browser

Posted: Sat Jan 27, 2018 1:32 pm
by HPW
Hello,

Firefox Quantum 58.0 getting even better:
Asus Eee Slate
i5 U470 1.33 Ghz 4 Gb

With javascript:
http://ferrydb.nl/newlisp/
>>>>> total time: 1591
>>>>> Performance ratio: 2.79 (1.0 on MacOSX 10.9, 2.3GHz Intel Core i5, newLISP v10.6.0-64-bit)

With web-assembly:
http://ferrydb.nl/newlisp-wa/
>>>>> total time: 1405
>>>>> Performance ratio: 2.49 (1.0 on MacOSX 10.9, 2.3GHz Intel Core i5, newLISP v10.6.0-64-bit)

Regards

Re: newLISP in a browser

Posted: Sun Jun 03, 2018 8:34 am
by HPW
Hello,

In last test with Google Chrome 67 I noticed that WA is now about 8x slower than JS.
In current Firefox WA is still faster than JS.

I also test a chromium based broser which shows similar Performance like Chrome. Also slow WA.

I wonder if it could be a problem with the used emscripten version.

Latest emscripten: Emscripten: 1.38.4 (June 02, 2018)

Regards

Re: newLISP in a browser

Posted: Sun Jun 03, 2018 2:46 pm
by HPW
Hello,

Did a bug report about chromes webassembly speed:

https://bugs.chromium.org/p/chromium/is ... ?id=849098

Regards

Re: newLISP in a browser

Posted: Fri Jun 08, 2018 10:40 am
by HPW
Hello,

Seems that they found the bug. Waiting for the fix.

Regards

Re: newLISP in a browser

Posted: Wed Jul 25, 2018 1:46 pm
by HPW
Hello,

Chrome Version 68.0.3440.75 (Offizieller Build) (64-Bit) is back on full speed with webassembly.

Firefox 61.0.1 (64-Bit) still a bit faster.

Regards

Re: newLISP in a browser

Posted: Sun Aug 26, 2018 6:19 am
by HPW
Hello Lutz,

In the index.html is some code to Show a progressbar for downloading.
I was wondering that it never Show up. Only the Status text changed.

Code: Select all

       if (!Module.setStatus.last) Module.setStatus.last = { time: Date.now(), text: '' };
          if (text === Module.setStatus.text) return;
          var m = text.match(/([^(]+)\((\d+(\.\d+)?)\/(\d+)\)/);
            alert (text);
            alert (m);
The m variable keeps always null so the later if gets never true.

Regards

Re: newLISP in a browser

Posted: Sun Aug 26, 2018 7:02 pm
by Lutz
The original index.html was taken from some other application dealing with compiled JavaScript. This is probably some left-over unused or only partly used code.

Re: newLISP in a browser

Posted: Fri Sep 07, 2018 10:31 am
by HPW
Hello,
After browser updates on major browsers

CAD-Workstation:
Dell Precision T3610
CPU E5-1620 v2 3.7 GHZ 16GB
Windows performance index 7.7
WIndows 7 PRO SP1

http://www.ferrydb.nl/newlisp/
http://www.ferrydb.nl/newlisp-wa/

(module "qa-bench")


Chrome 69 JS

>>>>> total time: 1099

Chrome 69 WA

>>>>> total time: 860


Firefox 62 JS

>>>>> total time: 822

Firefox 62 WA

>>>>> total time: 679

Regards

Re: newLISP in a browser

Posted: Sun Feb 03, 2019 5:31 am
by HPW
Hello,

Latest obserations with chrome 72:

http://www.ferrydb.nl/newlisp/
http://www.ferrydb.nl/newlisp-wa/

For both url's chrome 72 shows a warning sign in front of the url "Nicht sicher" (german for not secure)
Performance seems slower on both than older versions.
Not nice.

Regards

Re: newLISP in a browser

Posted: Mon Feb 04, 2019 5:51 pm
by HPW
Hello,

Oops, nothing special with Chrome and newlisp in the browser.
The "Not secure" Display is for every Non-https site.

Regards