newLISP Development Release v.10.5.6

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newLISP Development Release v.10.5.6

Postby Lutz » Tue Dec 10, 2013 4:26 pm

Development release v.10.5.6 continues with many small additions and improvements in several areas:

Files and changes notes: http://www.newlisp.org/downloads/development/
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Re: newLISP Development Release v.10.5.6

Postby johu » Thu Dec 12, 2013 11:50 am

Hello, Lutz.

Anaphoric if is great!

I finished the translartion of v.10.5.6's manual.

newlisp_manual-10506

And,

line 15481
<p><tt>if</tt> also sets the anaphoric syztem variable <tt>$it</tt> to the value

system?

line 25238-25247
<p>All members in <em>list</em> are sorted in ascending order.
Anything may be sorted, regardless of the types.
When members are themselves lists, each list element
is recursively compared. Arrays in <em>array</em> are
sorted as if they were lists.
If two expressions
of different types are compared, the lower type is sorted
before the higher type in the following order:</p>

<p>When sorting an <em>array</em> sort works as if sorting
a list.</p>

Either first or second in bold might be not necessary.

If second would be remained,
p25246
<p>When sorting an <em>array</em> <tt>sort</tt> works as if sorting

Maybe.

Thanks,
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Re: newLISP Development Release v.10.5.6

Postby Lutz » Thu Dec 12, 2013 3:11 pm

Thanks Johu, the new translation is online:

http://www.newlisp.org/downloads/develo ... al-jp.html


but I could only find the syztem spelling error and not the misplaced <b]sort bold quotes. Did you work using the latest newlisp_manial.html 10.5.6, as posted yesterday?
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Re: newLISP Development Release v.10.5.6

Postby johu » Fri Dec 13, 2013 9:45 am

Thank you for response, Lutz.

And I'm sorry, my explanation was not enough and using bold-tags had been wrong.

Then, I will be more careful.
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Re: newLISP Development Release v.10.5.6

Postby Lutz » Fri Dec 13, 2013 4:04 pm

Thanks for the great work Johu! I wish we had translations into more languages, but it is a lot of work. When printed, the manual is now over 300 pages long.
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Re: newLISP Development Release v.10.5.6

Postby TedWalther » Tue Dec 17, 2013 2:31 am

Lutz, does the FFI implementation in newlisp really need to depend on version 3.0.10 or later?

I did some digging, and it seems libffi 3.0.9 is fine, but breaks not only on OpenBSD, but also on Solaris and NetBSD. So far those platforms are sticking with 3.0.9, but adding patches to make it support various hardware architectures.

Was the shift from 3.0.9 to 3.0.10 that big, or could there be some way of supporting 3.0.9?
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Re: newLISP Development Release v.10.5.6

Postby Lutz » Tue Dec 17, 2013 2:54 pm

Judging from your error messages on OpenBSD with libffi 3.0.9, it looks like the current code in newLISP needs some functions which are not available in 3.0.9. But if you say, you could make 3.0.9 work with newLISP on other platforms, then the OpenBSD problem perhaps is of different nature?

On this page: https://sourceware.org/libffi/ version 3.0.13 is listed as working with OpenBSD. That sounds like 30.0.13 should be installable on OpenBSD? 3.0.9 was released in December 2009. Stefan Sonnenberg, who wrote the initial libffi support in newLISP, based it on 3.0.10 released in August 2011.
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Re: newLISP Development Release v.10.5.6

Postby TedWalther » Wed Dec 18, 2013 3:39 am

I guess to update the OpenBSD port of newlisp now I'll have to help the maintainers of libffi too. Ok. sigh. Hopefully I get it done in time for the big stable release of newlisp.
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Re: newLISP Development Release v.10.5.6

Postby abaddon1234 » Sat Apr 02, 2016 12:47 pm

it looks like the current code in newLISP
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Re: newLISP Development Release v.10.5.6

Postby TedWalther » Sat Apr 02, 2016 5:45 pm

Have you checked if libffi support is enabled? I know a while ago they updated libffi to one that works with newLisp. I haven't had time or energy to update my OpenBSD build server, so I haven't been able to test this.
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