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Attempts to remove the parentheses from Lisp, both big (like Dylan in the ’90s) and small (such as Sweet-expressions today) have assumed the problem was with the parenthesis itself, instead of the prejudice of non-Lisp programmers against it. Like all differences we encounter for the first time, the...

That's great, Lutz! series is one of those functions I've overlooked in the past, so now maybe I'll start using it more.

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You're welcome. Glad I could be of help.

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Lutz, This isn't really a request so much as sharing an idea: What would you think of adding $idx to dup ? Something like this: > (dup (format "%c" $idx) 10) ("" "\001" "\002" "\003" "\004" "\005" "\006" "\007" "\008" "\t") > _ Of course, we can do it this way: > (map (fn (ea) (format "%c" ea)) (seq...

I usually always end my silent expressions this way: > (silent (println "ok?") (print "> ")) ; notice the space after '>' ok? > _ silent is merely suppressing the prompt newlisp usually prints. Hitting enter on an empty line prints the prompt again (what you are experiencing). (print "> ") at the en...

This is getting difficult... Uh-oh, I thought I was making it easier! I’ve abandoned using named objects for now (the updated obj function), but my current experiments have been very promising. I'm also working on a useable define-keyword macro. It functions the way I would want keyword arguments t...

I forgot to include the object? predicate used by the second version of the obj function:
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In my continued experiments with mutability in FOOP, I've discovered another technique that simplifies and unifies the previous system. It’s done without the use of symbols stored in the MAIN context and doesn’t require two types of objects (mutable and immutable). The earlier technique required bot...

we still don't have a good way of doing this distributed proof-reading. I think more people would contribute if the mechanics were easier. Something like WikiBooks might be something to consider one day... This is something I hoped newLISP wiki could handle, but I probably underestimate the difficu...

At the time I was wondering how to integrate FOOP with newLISP-GUI... Ie, an object to represent state and behaviour, then instances of it created and displayed on a canvas or layout. For example, an object that describes how an analog meter works, then placed as instances so that they could show d...

These are gorgeous, cormullion. Hooray for pixel-level generation!

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cormullion, Weren't you working on something to do with GS that needed mutable objects? Maybe this solution can help you achieve that. It really just moves the resetting of the variable into the accessors, but if there ever was a good reason for accessors, this is it. I'm glad my Gödel/Escher/Bach c...

you know micheal, first of all I always write your name wrong dont know why that is. Norman, that's meta! But maybe I'm only saying that because I've got metaness on the brain ;-) and secondly every time you post these wonderful solutions I always need to read it 2 or 3 times befor i get it. Elegan...

Dear Club, My continuing adventures in FOOP have led me to a new discovery: mutable FOOP objects. By adding a self-reference to its second element, a mutable object can preserve its state without manually resetting the reference each time the object is updated. (Actually, manual resetting still occu...

cormullion wrote:Nice to see Leo Brodie's books in there, too. I liked him.

One of my favorite books about Forth was by Leo. Thinking Forth (I think). His cartoons always made it more fun to learn and illustrated his points well.

Maybe we could persuade him to write one on newLISP ;-)

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Rick! Long time, no hear :-)

Working on anything interesting?

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I think what cormullion is responding to here is the reason standards committees are set up to begin with. I, too, was bitten by 10, but the bites have mostly healed now. Granted, I have no modules of code floating around to continue mauling me. It’s the ol’ ebb-and-flow between freedom and security...

Done.

When clicking the above link, I noticed the URL is filled in like so:

http://www.newlisp.org/\"

Is this a mistake?

I removed the trailing backslash and double quote when I submitted mine.

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"Lisp is a programmable programming language." — CACM, September 1991 The quote continues: “Not only can you program in Lisp (that makes it a programming language) but you can program the language itself. This is possible, in part, because Lisp programs are represented as Lisp data objects, and par...

duke,

There is no single, correct way to format newLISP code. Do whatever makes it easier for you to understand the code's structure. Lutz intentionally uses various code formats in the manual to help encourage freedom in this area.

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Thanks for the invite, Nick. Alas, I don’t live close enough to attend (plus, I hardly consider myself a newLISP hacker), but I would love to see a newLISPer there as a representative of the language.

newLISP certainly doesn’t get the respect and attention it so richly deserves.

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Just wanted to mention that I deleted my Twitter account a few days ago. I did this because a couple of my entries were “disappeared,” and I had lost confidence in Twitter. I mention this because I didn’t want those individuals whom I was following to think I simply stopped following them :-) m i c ...

While we’re on the subject, I just wanted to express my appreciation to Ryon for all his efforts at keeping this such a nice place to visit.

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Here's a minimal version:
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xytroxon wrote:I think we all better re-think our foolish language plans...

RedSnake is the future!!!

Darn it. And I just finished converting all my newLISP code into REALbasic, too! At least it’ll be fun typing all those tildes. They look like pretty windswept waves upon the ocean.

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